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UCLA Surgeon Embarrassed at Conference Confrontation
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Caught Red Handed!
An Investigation Into the Methods and Tactics of Samuel S. Ahn, M.D.
By Alex Baker (songboy1234)
March 1, 2006
Draft ver.1.3
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Abstract
ETS Surgeon Samuel S. Ahn, M.D. has been caught on video telling lies about ETS side-effects, denying participation in a WebMD article and a EurekAlert! press release, admitting human vivisection and other disturbing aspects of ETS. He is evidently using a UCLA scientific study to recruit surgery patients. Ahn maintains his status as a prolific practitioner and ardent advocate of ETS, while a member of his research staff has published claims that Dr. Ahn does not even recommend the surgery at all. Download video clips here, and IHHS conference transcript here.
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Table of Contents
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Background
Samuel S. Ahn, M.D., is a vascular surgeon, a professor at UCLA, a pioneer of ETS surgery, and a founding member of the International Hyperhidrosis Society (IHHS). On July 30, 2005, in Huntington Beach, California, the IHHS sponsored a Continuing Medical Education (CME) conference entitled “Hyperhidrosis - Emerging Concepts & Treatments”. Dr. Ahn gave a presentation on his ETS, and afterwards fielded questions.
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Dr. Ahn is also leading a clinical study into the genetic basis for “hyperhidrosis”. The study has already established that “sweaty palms” is hereditary and they are trying to isolate the “hyperhidrosis gene". He and his staff are actively seeking volunteers and their relatives who believe they sweat excessively. The study is funded by the California Vascular Research Foundation, and conducted by UCLA Division of Vascular Surgery, and the UCLA Department of Human Genetics.
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WebMD Article
My interest in Dr. Ahn was first piqued when I read a WebMD article about his genetic study. The 2002 article, written by Liza Jane Maltin and reviewed by Gary Vogin, M.D., advises patients suffering with "hyperhidrosis" (excessive sweating) that there is “help available” in the form of ETS, “a minimally invasive surgery to snip the sympathetic nerve connection to the hand.” The article then quotes Dr. Ahn:
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“So far, says Ahn, [ETS] surgery has been 100% successful with no negative side effects.” |
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This, of course, is rubbish. ETS surgery has a great long list of proven side effects, and it is deceptive in the extreme to characterize ETS as merely snipping the “nerve connection to the hand”. In fact, this statement is false in two respects:
- ETS surgery will interrupt the sweat-signals to a vastly larger body area than just the hands, usually encompassing the entire upper body above the nipple-line.
- The same nerves which lead to the sweat glands are all bundled together with nerves leading to the heart, the lungs, blood vessels, the thyroid, fat tissue, bone, bone marrow, and lots of other good stuff.
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| EurekAlert! Press Release
Evidently, Ahn has also issued a press release promoting his genetic study and ETS surgery. The press release warns readers that "hyperhidrosis" is "underreported" and up to "5% of the population" may be "at risk". Similar to the WebMD article, the press release says Ahn will "snip the sympathetic nerve connected to the hands", then states:
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“[ETS] surgery simply stops the ability of the nerve to create hyperhidrosis.”
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Since “hyperhidrosis” means excessive sweating, the statement clearly implies that ETS only stops the excessive sweating, when in fact it paralyzes all sweating in the denerved area, an area much larger than just "the hands".
So, I decided to pay Dr. Ahn a visit at the Huntington Beach conference to see if he could clarify any of this.
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| IHHS Conference |
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| The "Hyperhidrosis - Emerging Conceptes & Treatments" conference was held at the Huntington Beach, California, Hyatt Regency on July 30, 2005. Panelists included Dr. Ahn and Dee Anna Glaser, M.D. Dr. Glaser is a dematologist, a board memeber of IHHS, and gave a talk promoting Botox® injections as a treatment for excessive sweating.
I attended with my friend "Immunorat", who is a microbiologist and frequent contributor to the ETS & Reversals forum. The audience was comprised of about 30 people, mostly medical professionals, and included Robert Szarnicki M.D., an ETS surgeon from San Francisco.
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The main points of Dr. Ahn’s presentation were:
- ETS stops sweating to the hands
- Ahn is a pioneer of ETS, having started doing it back in the early 90’s
- He uses the "ganglia resection" method (cutting out entire ganglia), as opposed to the severing, burning, or clamping methods employed by other surgerons
- He only had one patient who ever regretted ETS
- He has achieved better results in the last few years, now that he consistently removes the T2 and T3 ganglia, as opposed to his previous strategy of “experimenting around”
- The only negative aspects of ETS he studies are “Compensatory Truncal Hyperhidrosis”, “Horner’s Syndrome” and “Hospital Stays”.
- Large numbers of horrible, disabling ETS results and disciplinary actions from Taiwan, Sweden, Finland and elsewhere are due to differing surgical techniques, and do not apply to him
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| IHHS Conference - Only the Hands? |
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Throughout his main presentation, Dr. Ahn repeatedly made reference to ETS surgery stopping sweating to the hands. With my own anhidrosis burning and clawing at my whole upper body relentlessly, I spoke up near the beginning of the Q&A session:
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Songboy: Just so I’m clear, the actual effect of resecting the T2 ganglia is to just stop sweating on the palm of the hand?
Ahn: (showing songboy his palms) Right.
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A blatant lie. He looked away toward another questioner, but I pressed on:
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Songboy: And no other areas? It just stops sweating on the palm of the hands?
Ahn: It generally will get some axillae (armpits) in some people, but not on a consistent basis. If you want to get axillae consistently you’ve got to take T3.
Songboy: O.K., so if you take T2 and T3 you’ll lose sweating on the palms of the hands . . .
Ahn: And the axillae
Songboy: . . .and the armpits, and that’s it?
Ahn: Right.
Songboy: I see. OK.
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Even when pressed, he sticks to the lie, . . for a moment. Then, perhaps sensing I might be exposing him, Dr. Ahn starts changing his story trying to cover his tracks:
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Ahn: Well, uh, actually no, some people’s faces get affected, not everyone, but some people’s faces won’t sweat either.
Songboy: Oh, I see. Like, what, what percentage would you say, if it’s a T2-T3 resection?
Ahn: Or even if you just take T2. Uh, I’d say about a quarter of the patients . . .maybe 10 to percent of the. . .to 25% of patients say their face don’t sweat as much.
Songboy: As much? Or at all? Or . . .
Ahn: Well, some people say they don’t sweat at all. I haven’t looked . . .I don’t have, uh, hard numbers on that, but that is a definite effect.
Songboy: Well, that’d be pretty detrimental to thermoregulation, wouldn’t it?
Ahn: Well, no, uh, actually it hasn’t been.
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Lies, lies, lies. He changed his story three times, and still never got close to the truth. Clearly I am dragging Dr. Ahn into admitting facial anhidrosis after he thought the question was over, and he is still hedging. He’s still not talking about the head, or the arms, or the neck, or the shoulders. No hard numbers? Truth is, Ahn’s ETS will produce permanent anhidrosis on the top 1/3 of the body in about 99.9% of cases, not 10% , not 25%. Anhidrosis on the top of the body is the expected result. And of course ETS affects thermoregulation.
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| IHHS Conference - Heart Rate |
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| Dr. Ahn had not mentioned anything about the cardiac effects of ETS, when another surgeon in attendance, Dr. Robert Szarnicki, brought up the subject. Again Ahn could not resist prevaricaton: |
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Songboy: So maximal heart rate is not affected?
Ahn: No it’s not. It’s just the basal.
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Even Reisfeld admits ETS will typically limit a person to a 138 bpm maximum heart rate, whereas 160-180 bpm would be considered normal.
Of course, I couldn’t wait to ask about the WebMD article.
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| IHHS Conference - Denials |
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Songboy: If I could, I saw an article about you on WebMD from 2002, and the article said “One treatment, pioneered by Ahn, involves minimally invasive surgery to snip the sympathetic nerve connection to the hand. So far, says Ahn, the operation has been 100% successful with no negative side effects”. Did you say that?
Ahn: Well, first of all, I don’t know who said that on the web but I don’t have anything . . .
Songboy: Article by Liza Jane Maltin, WebMD feature, review by Gary Vogin, M.D. March 6, 2002.
Ahn: I have no idea. I’ll just say that’s the first time I’ve heard of that report but, I, I do remember saying specifically that so far, uh, I’ve had a hundred percent efficacy rate in stopping the sweating. About the “no negative”, I would find that hard to believe that I would have said that.
Songboy: OK, there was actually a very similar article on Eureka Press Release. Did you see that one?
Ahn: No I missed that. [Looks to DeAnna Glaser for help] There’s a lot out on the web that I have no control over . . .
Glaser: It’s kind of hard . . . We’re not here to [inaudible]
Ahn: I have no control over any of that. I have no control over what’s out on the web. So . . .
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So . . . Ahn is saying that Liza Jane Maltin and/or Gary Vogin M.D. fabricated a desperate and malicious lie, then falsely attributed it to him. Why would they do that? I don’t believe WebMD would do such a thing. Considering Ahn is the one who stands to gain from increased sales of ETS surgery, the most likely conclusion is that Samuel S. Ahn M.D. did indeed say that ETS has no side effects, just as the authors say he did.
Thusfar, no one from WebMD has returned my phone calls or emails.
For the record, ETS has a long list of side effects.
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IHHS Conference - Vivisection
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Ahn: The first several years [of doing ETS] I sort of experimented around trying to figure out what’s the best. Do I take just 2? Do I take 2 and 3? Do I take 1 and 4? Do I use clips or do I use electrocautery? Et cetera et cetera.
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I wonder . . . Did Dr. Ahn inform his ETS patients they were being experimented upon, back in the days when he now says he was “experimenting around”?
IHHS Conference - Bone Metabolism
During his main presentation, Dr. Ahn never said anything about ETS affecting bones (or much else besides sweating). But after the Q & A started to heat up, our resident biologist Immunorat posed a technical question to Dr. Ahn about trying to quantify the effects of the nerve damage using Scatchard Plots. Ahn had nothing to say on that subject, yet apparently feeling the need to match intellects with Immunorat, gave us a glimpse into what may be the most closely guarded ETS secret of them all:
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Immunorat: I wonder if you’re aware of any studies (on ETS using kinetics or Scatchard Plots)?
Ahn: I don’t, I don’t know, but you do, you do remind me of another issue, about one of the reasons I don’t operate on, on, on uh, on pre-puberty, uh, people . . .is that theoretically, and this is all theory, I have no proof of this, theoretically, if you cut the sympathetic nerves, you could interfere with bone metabolism. Now this is really indirect, really soft. Now the reason I say that is because RSD, is an over-activity of the sympathetic nerve, right, and, ah, and, and we know that in RSD, with over-sympathetic, I mean, we get a, we get a positive bone scan, uh, you get a positive scan because the bones are more active. So reverse this, if you take away the sympathetic drive to that bone area, you will decrease that metabolic activity in bone growth. And you could, theoretically interfere with the bone metabolism and the bone strength. And that’s just pure theory, but, uh, that’s one of the reasons that, um, um, and that has been mentioned in the literature.
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Ahn is bending over backwards to make sure we understand this bone business is “pure theory” and not proven. But actually, it’s a lot more proven than he lets on. Sympathectomy is known to affect bone metabolism, specifically it will increase the rate at which calcium is lost and re-abosrbed into the body (resorption).
Ahn’s theorizing is sound, the most sense he made the entire afternoon. He shows an ability to make a theoretical prediction about ETS based on the known function of sympathetic nerves sympathetic nerves regulate bone, therefore cutting those nerves might screw up whatever was being regulated. Pretty straightforward reasoning.
So why isn’t he doing bone scans on his patients to test out his theory? Could it be that he just doesn’t want to know? And again, I wonder if Ahn shares this “theory” with his potential customers. At least he doesn't operate on children, right? Well, not so fast.
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| IHHS Conference - ETS on Children |
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Szarnicki: I was asked to appear as a legal expert witness on a case back east where someone had taken out T2, 3 and 4 in a young child, a six year old, who ended up needing a pacemaker. |
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| If ETS on uninformed adults is bad, ETS on children is beyond the pale. Remember, we're talking about treating sweaty palms, not cancer. Dr. Ahn has told us he does not opererate on "pre-puberty people" for fear of stunting bone growth. Is this true? Consider this passage from the IHHS website, under the heading "Treating Children": |
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Since hyperhidrosis in children and adolescents can have negative effects on daily life and social interactions similar to those experienced by adults, they should be offered effective treatment as well, starting with the least-invasive approach. When conservative treatment fails, however, ETS is an option. |
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| IHHS Conference - Psychiatric
This part of the Q&A got so interesting it merits its own seperate article. Dr. Szarnicki brought up the prospect of ETS surgeons going to jail, and Dr. Glaser had to step up and end the conversation, practically forcing Dr. Ahn away from the podium. Before that happened, I had asked Dr. Ahn about the psychiatric effects of the surgery, and instead he started talking about the pre-existing psychiatric issues of some of his patients, so I interrupted him:
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Songboy: I was getting at the psychiatric effects of the surgery.
Ahn: Oh, I see, from the surgery. I was, I don’t know of any studies that have been done on it.
Songboy: Telaranta’s released 2 huge ones. . .
Ahn: Yeah, but my . . .I’m not sure I believe his studies by the way.
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| First Ahn says he doesn't know of any studies that have been done on ETS psychiatric effects, and in the very next breath says he doesn't believe Timo Telaranta's studies, which are all about the psychiatric effects of ETS. Obviously he must have seen Telaranta's studies. No wonder Dee Anna Glaser decided to pull the plug. As an ETS victim myself, I can report to you that the surgery does greatly reduce the ability to experience fear and other strong emotions, and lowers alertness, corroborating the findings of Dr. Telaranta and the Privatix clinic. |
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On January 10, 2006, a new member with screen name “UCLAMed” posted a thread on the ETS & Reversals discussion board with the headline
“HYPERHIDROSIS STUDY DONE BY UCLA TO HELP FIND A CURE!”
UCLAMed was seeking volunteers for the study, gave contact information and said that Dr. Ahn had a clinic available to help hyperhidrosis patients “any way possible” and to “feel free to make an appointment”.
One line stuck out and caught the attention of the forum moderator:
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“[Dr. Ahn] is actually one of the only doctors that does not recommend surgery to Hyperhidrosis patients”.
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What? What is going on here? Dr. Ahn is one of the world’s leading advocates of ETS!
Let’s see if I have this right. In July I attend I conference where Dr. Ahn touts ETS surgery as a wonderful, safe treatment for excessive sweating that he has been doing for 15 years, and how his results are so much better than the disasters reported elsewhere, and about how he was a pioneer of ETS and had done more of them than almost anyone else. Then in January someone from UCLA is recruiting hyperhidrosis study volunteers and saying Dr. Ahn does not recommend surgery? Huh?!?
I took the bait and sent a mail to UCLAMed, saying I was interested in the study. I was answered by Kathleen Lin, who sent me a promotional flyer. We exchanged a series of emails about the procedure of the study, and I asked her why it was that Dr. Ahn would not recommend ETS. The only response I got was -
“I am not too positive why [Dr. Ahn] doesn't recommend surgery, but I recall him using that as the primary source in our meeting.”
Hmmmmm. At this point I begin to suspect Kathleen Lin may have said Ahn doesn’t do ETS because she was observant enough to notice that the membership of the ETS & Reversals forum are overwhelmingly anti-ETS. That way, perhaps she could interact with new surgery prospects and their families, without triggering criticism on the discussion board. Apparently she figured we didn’t know who Dr. Ahn is or what he does.
She would be wrong about that. We were already well aware of the out-of-court settlement between Ahn and one of his patients. The patient had accused Ahn of forging a consent form, and handwriting experts were brought in.
I supplied requested information about my blood relatives who have hyperhidrosis. Ms. Lin explained that they needed to take saliva samples and would send out test kits that we would spit into. She was quite methodical, making sure I had given her the names of everyone in my whole family tree, and noting which ones had hyperhidrosis. She asked permission to contact all my sweaty family members directly. I declined and had her send all the test kits to me.
Several times Ms. Lin encouraged me to go to one of Dr. Ahn’s “clinics”, which take place on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Then, after she didn’t hear back from me for a few weeks, she sent me another email reminding me about the clinic.
Now, Ahn had “announced” back in the 2002 WebMD article that his study had indeed found “sweaty palms” to be “hereditary”. I think we already knew that, because excessive sweating “runs in familes”, but in any case, Ahn has evidently confirmed it. What remains unclear are why the California Vascular Research Foundation continues to fund the study, what Dr. Ahn is actually trying to learn, and what sort treatment could possibly arise from it.
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Based on my experience, it seems to me the fine work of Kathleen Lin has as much to do with expanding and working Dr. Ahn’s database of prospective ETS customers, as it does with studying genetics.
At the IHHS conference, after I has confronted him with the WebMD article and the EurekAlert! press release, Ahn offered the following disclaimer:
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Ahn: But, anyway, let me also state for the record, that I have not personally put anything out on the web myself, on any of this stuff, and I certainly have not ever advertised for this operation. |
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This strains credulity. Dr. Ahn would have us believe that someone else fabricated a press release touting Ahn’s study, warning people that "hyperhidrosis" is "underreported" and making deceptive claims about ETS, then hired EurekAlert! to put it out. Who would do such a thing? It would seem that Dr. Ahn himself would benefit from an increase in the reporting of hyperhidrosis, as this could increase the number of ETS surgeries performed. EurekAlert! has thus far declined to comment.
Most of Ahn’s competitors use advertising websites to generate business. Evidently Ahn is able to avoid these more obvious forms of advertising, because his genetic study provides him and his recruiters access to a steady stream of potential surgery customers.
What do you call the International Hyperhidrosis Society, if not a website devoted to advertising Botox® and ETS surgery? Who is responsible for its content if not its founders?
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